Fresh off winning a defamation case against former President Donald Trump brought by writer E. Jean Carroll, attorney Roberta Kaplan spoke about a prior experience she had with Trump's misogynistic attitude toward women while deposing him in a separate case.
On a recent episode of George Conway's podcast, Kaplan revealed that she once suspected Trump hurled a coded misogynistic slur while Kaplan was deposing Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate.
That deposition was related to a 2018 legal complaint that asserted that, in return for undisclosed payments amounting to millions of dollars, Trump leveraged his reality television program, The Celebrity Apprentice, and other promotional occasions to enhance ACN Opportunity, a telecommunications marketing company associated with a nonprofit that utilized Trump's brand to attract teenagers.
Kaplan did not give an exact timeline as to when Trump said the slur but said on anti-Trump attorney George Conway's podcast that Trump told her "See you next Tuesday" off the record as the deposition concluded.
The phrase "See you next Tuesday" is a coded expression derived from the letters 'c' and 'u,' sounding like "see you" when pronounced. When combined with the first letters of "next" and "Tuesday," it forms an acronym that stands for "c*nt."
Kaplan recalled:
“I, thank God, had no idea what that meant, so I said to him, ‘What are you talking about? I’m coming back on Wednesday.'"
"Then we get into the car, and my colleagues are like, ‘Robbie, do you know what that means?’ And I’m like, ‘No, what are you talking about?’ They tell me, and I’m like, ‘Oh my God, thank God I didn’t know because had I known, I for sure would have gotten angry.’”
“There’s no question I would’ve gotten angry, and I did it because I didn’t know. So I was super polite, and I looked like I was being above it all, which I wasn’t. I just did not know.”
You can hear what she said in the audio below.
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It's worth noting that Kaplan's revelation came after a jury decided that her client, Carroll, was repeatedly defamed by Trump and awarded her $83.3 million in damages.
Prior to the release of her 2019 book, What Do We Need Men For?: A Modest Proposal, Carroll wrote in New York Magazine that Trump had sexually assaulted her in the fall of 1995 or the spring of 1996 in the Bergdorf Goodman department store in New York City.
In May 2023, following a lengthy legal process, a jury ruled Trump was responsible for the sexual abuse and defamation of Carroll, awarding her $5 million in damages. Trump's remarks regarding Carroll formed a central part of her original defamation lawsuit. That jury concluded that he defamed her by branding her a liar and dismissing the entire incident as a hoax.
Carroll would go on to sue Trump again. The judge overseeing this second case said its purpose was not to reopen the question of whether the assault during the 1990s took place, since that had already been decided.
The primary task for this jury was to determine the appropriate consequences for Trump's persistent dissemination of false defamatory statements. Additionally, they were tasked with assessing the compensation owed to Carroll for the emotional distress resulting from years of being targeted by a former President (leading her to keep a gun by her bedside) and the damage to her reputation as a journalist reliant on trust and factual reporting.
In the end, the jury granted Carroll $65 million in punitive damages, affirming that Trump's actions were malicious. They also awarded her $18.3 million for the emotional harm and harm to her reputation for a grand total of $83.3 million in total damages.
Many weren't surprised by Kaplan's admission—and swiftly criticized Trump's behavior.
Kaplan also recounted another incident where Trump, in response to his legal team's lunch offer, angrily threw a stack of documents across the table before storming out. She said Trump took the "huge pile" of documents with him before leaving.
In an appearance on CNN afterward, Conway himself condemned Trump's behavior as "appalling" and labeled him as "a pig," adding:
"I mean, he’s a pig, and the fact that he was President of the United States makes it all the more distressing. It was misogynistic – to call a woman that to her face and trying to be cute about it. I mean, it was just disgraceful and the kind of indecent conduct that you wouldn’t expect in any adult."
He went on to criticize Trump's actions as not even reaching the level of teenage behavior but rather being "utterly, utterly childish." Conway acknowledged that such behavior was sadly expected from Trump, given his history of engaging in "crude" conduct over time.
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