During a recent episode of C-SPAN's Washington Journal, anchor Greta Brawner factchecked MAGA minion Arizona Republican Representative Andy Biggs after a caller expressed anger over former President Donald Trump's desire to pardon "the traitors convicted of seditious conspiracy" over the deadly U.S. Capitol riot that occurred on January 6, 2021.
Biggs—who helped organize the "Stop the Steal" rally that took place before the riot—falsely claimed no one had been convicted of seditious conspiracy in relation to the attack.
However, when Brawner circled back to Biggs' statement, she informed him the founder of the far-right White nationalist group Oath Keepers Stewart Rhodes was found guilty of seditious conspiracy.
The Capitol riot has led to over 1,000 people being charged, with Rhodes and Kelly Meggs—the Florida chapter leader of the Oath Keepers—being among those found guilty of seditious conspiracy. The charge carries a sentence of up to 20 years behind bars.
When this was pointed out to Biggs, he could only lie—as expected.
You can see their interaction in the video below.
To the caller who pointed out the seditious conspiracy charges some rioters are facing, Biggs said:
"I appreciate the call, and I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying, but I think you’re talking about the former President saying if he gets elected he’d issue some pardons or clemency to some of the people arrested and prosecuted on Jan. 6."
“Not all were convicted of seditious treason. In fact, none were! So that’s important to understand."
“The second thing I would say is that many of them were convicted of misdemeanor trespass. And I think that’s important to understand as well.”
When another caller asked Biggs to explain why he requested his own pardon following the attack, Biggs denied another repeatedly corroborated fact.
“I didn’t ask for a pardon. That’s been completely debunked. But, you know, lies persist, so that’s going to happen and I’m big enough to withstand the perpetual lie in that way.”
He also pretended not to know who Jeffrey Clark—a Trump administration Justice Department official who conspired with the rioters—even is.
"There’s been no indication that anybody attempted to overthrow the government with somebody named Jeff Clark, whom I don’t believe I’ve ever even met. So thanks for the perpetuation of the false narrative of the left.”
Without missing a beat, C-SPAN's Brawner corrected him.
“Congressman, USA Today had this headline back in November of 2022 that Stewart Rhodes, the Oath Keepers founder, was found guilty of seditious conspiracy."
At this point, Biggs began to sputter before claiming he "didn’t follow that case.”
Many have criticized Biggs following his appearance on C-SPAN.
Reports suggest Biggs did indeed request a pardon from the Trump White House following the attack, according to former Trump aides' under-oath testimony to the House Select Committee tasked with investigating it.
One such aide, Cassidy Hutchinson, revealed she heard directly from Biggs about his request for a pardon. The testimony indicates Biggs and five other House Republicans sought pardons from Trump to protect them from criminal prosecution for their part in inciting and supporting the insurrection.
John McEntee, another White House aide, testified blanket pardons for all those involved in the Capitol riot were also discussed.
