A woman took to Twitter to defend her Nazi grandparents and extended family, insisting that kindness shields them from judgment. The whole of Twitter reminded this person, who might be a bot, that the world doesn't work that way.
It began last Friday when @its_a_trapppp posted the following, in reaction to a previous tweet:
But you literally just judged all Nazis a 'assholes'. My grandfather, my grandmother, their families and friends were all involved with the Party. They're also some of the kindest, most wonderful people I've meet, yet you've already judged them based on a group generalization
To which Josh Callahan, a hero to everyone, replied in such a way that it completely dismantles her argument:
I'd love to introduce them to my great grandparents but they were gassed in a concentration camp.
But I'm sure they're great.
Another Twitter user felt this needed wider recognition.
This deserves ALL THE GODDAMN RECOGNITION. https://t.co/CzCTydIOqi— BoozyBarrister (@BoozyBarrister) 1513970791.0
It is bad enough that we have people still saying "not all men" mistreat women, completely derailing the conversation for gender equality. But the argument that not all Nazis were bad takes it to a whole new level of absurdity. This is the world we live in now?
@BoozyBarrister I can't believe we're now at the #NotAllNazis stage....— Mireille Sillander (@Mireille Sillander) 1514026453.0
Her logic forgets that grandparents are more inclined to be kind to their grandkids.
@BoozyBarrister Of course her grandparents were kind to her, what kind of logic is that?— AQUA4x (@AQUA4x) 1513971180.0
Even the KKK love their children. And yet, they are still racist, white supremacists.
@BoozyBarrister At the risk of being judgmental, I'm sure the average KKK member loves their children too— Soong K. Ma (@Soong K. Ma) 1514048631.0
Storybook villains 101: You can be kind and evil.
@BoozyBarrister You can be nice, and be evil. You can be charming, and be evil. You can dress with incredible style… https://t.co/69T3eVEmSX— Nika Harper (@Nika Harper) 1514057382.0
Apples and oranges.
Participation in genocide is not an equivalent "group generalization" as being born with the same color hair.
@BoozyBarrister "group generalization," like being a willing and active member of an organization that ROUNDS UP AN… https://t.co/bnJ4rAFfzu— Topless Topics (@Topless Topics) 1514050504.0
So yeah, it's okay to group generalize Nazis.
@BoozyBarrister If there's one group of people you are allowed to make generalizations about, it's Nazis. Also, peo… https://t.co/kUxMTqLrZf— Doug Grant (@Doug Grant) 1513988949.0
Don't judge people for who they are, but do judge them on their actions.
@BoozyBarrister This is why we need to stop saying "don't judge people" and clarify we mean "don't judge people sup… https://t.co/8ZxptqUwi7— J. Andrew Beard (@J. Andrew Beard) 1513971182.0
Others on Twitter were far less forgiving.
"He still was an antisemitic, racist piece of Nazi trash."
@BoozyBarrister my grandfather fought in ww2, lost a leg to gangrene and wasn't the worst father/grandfather. guess… https://t.co/xa5PejkbPY— Ann-Katrin Dill (@Ann-Katrin Dill) 1513971191.0
@BoozyBarrister My grandfather, my grandmother, their family and friends were all involved in the part too, and eve… https://t.co/nCthlADiXR— Danni (@Danni) 1514029732.0
Those who went to @its_a_trapppp Twitter page soon discovered that she too is racist and a Nazi.
@count_01 @AngelusofDeath @JustinTweets4 @BoozyBarrister I love her MULTIPLE posts crying about getting harassed. A… https://t.co/llwF90rUq1— And you may ask yourself "How did we get here?" (@And you may ask yourself "How did we get here?") 1514061266.0
@BoozyBarrister @KillerMartinis Not surprising, since she's a Nazi too. Check out her feed, then report and move on.— The Plural of Apocalypse (@The Plural of Apocalypse) 1513972516.0
"The apple didn't fall far from the tree."
@BoozyBarrister And by taking a quick look through her twitter feed, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. She's… https://t.co/tNUkBew5Ex— Dan Crane (@Dan Crane) 1513973279.0
Some recommended reading might enlighten her worldview.
@BoozyBarrister Somone needs to read The Banality of Evil.— Keith McLean (@Keith McLean) 1513976978.0
Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil is a book by political theorist Hannah Arendt, originally published in 1963. Arendt, a Jew who fled Germany during Adolf Hitler's rise to power, reported on Nazi Adolf Eichmann's trial for The New Yorker. The phrase "the banality of evil" refers to Eichmann's bland behavior at the trial as the man displayed neither guilt for his actions nor hatred for those trying him, claiming he bore no responsibility because he was simply "doing his job."
But disagreement on principle doesn't permit one to cast off the shame of participation.
@BoozyBarrister early on. He wrote letters back then which show he disagreed with Hitler but he had a wife and two… https://t.co/1xgNf9ipka— Want A Cuppa? (@Want A Cuppa?) 1514057520.0
@PannadAnyone You don't get to cast off the shame of participating in that system just because you disagreed with it personally.— Vic Wolf (@Vic Wolf) 1514067998.0
The real reason why we need to continue teaching about the Holocaust.
@4everacres @BoozyBarrister "Most germans were Nazis during that time, or they died for refusal" This is an import… https://t.co/nMUHB9I54k— A Very Unstable Genius: Live on #GorillaChannel (@A Very Unstable Genius: Live on #GorillaChannel) 1513974814.0
@dnieporent @4everacres @BoozyBarrister And in 1939, the membership was 5.3 million (around 6.6%). Since all other… https://t.co/ylESZyAZuU— Q. "Expel The Nazis" Stone (@Q. "Expel The Nazis" Stone) 1513978823.0
@4everacres @BoozyBarrister Um, no. Nazi Party membership was far from mandatory, even for Wehrmacht officers. Mor… https://t.co/2BqHoNhhtz— Christopher Biow (@Christopher Biow) 1513979869.0
Knowledge and guilt is a huge part of the German and Austrian culture.
@tls_567 @wyliehorn @BoozyBarrister Its honestly a huge part of German and Austrian culture - the guilt, the uneasy… https://t.co/MimnIlmxcQ— Ludovica (@Ludovica) 1514031872.0
In the words of the late, and truly kind, author Terry Pratchett:
There are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot easily be duplicated by a normal kindly family man who just comes in to work every day and has a job to do.
― Terry Pratchett
@jack_splat_doe @BoozyBarrister “There are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot easily be… https://t.co/qtYAc7UaRC— CrazyGermanGirl (@CrazyGermanGirl) 1513976506.0
This person had Nazi participation explained to him as a life-or-death ultimatum held over family members.
@BoozyBarrister One of my German in-laws explained it differently. He said he flew for the Nazis because if he didn… https://t.co/0zU67sQKYb— Zizi Roberts (@Zizi Roberts) 1514037507.0
"Nice people made the best Nazis."
@BoozyBarrister I am sure they were lovely :P Just like Naomi Shulman said.... https://t.co/6veGUdukwA— urban_itch #FBPE (@urban_itch #FBPE) 1514062527.0
But sometimes... something truly amazing happens when people engage in conversation.
@Great_Eyewarp @BoozyBarrister @tara_atrandom Were, not are. There aren’t any Nazis anymore. Just those who hate.— Keats (@Keats) 1513974772.0
@tara_atrandom @Great_Eyewarp @BoozyBarrister They can think and believe all they want. I’ve enough dead family to… https://t.co/tlvqwILoyc— Keats (@Keats) 1513975227.0
@tara_atrandom @Great_Eyewarp @BoozyBarrister I said dont give credence. I didn’t say ignore. Anyone who hates, o… https://t.co/QdnHe7O7Oj— Keats (@Keats) 1513975763.0
@tara_atrandom @Great_Eyewarp @BoozyBarrister We are saying the same thing except I refuse to call them Nazis. I w… https://t.co/PJyIgrHXrs— Keats (@Keats) 1513976091.0
One man's point of view changed for the better.
@keatsy2112 @tara_atrandom @BoozyBarrister Dancing around calling them what they really are might make feel all hig… https://t.co/PejB7qpUkT— Eyewarp (@Eyewarp) 1513976388.0
@Great_Eyewarp @tara_atrandom @BoozyBarrister Point made. I had not considered that point of view.— Keats (@Keats) 1513976812.0
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